haksaw
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Post by haksaw on Feb 7, 2012 20:50:45 GMT -4
We all know that everything Nana is doing is perfect and outstanding... Or is it? ^_^ I'm not liked sometimes, because I mostly talk about negative sides of things, but what's the point talking about good - they don't need improvements anyway. So what Nana's failures do you know of? Be it concert performance, voice acting, unfulfilled ambitions or just food she couldn't eat, bring it all here =) I'll just start with some random things popping in my head, later I maybe rewatch all her concert DVDs to find more 1. The most severe singing fail I can remember was Transmigration on red Live Fighter. Youtube here. Strangely enough, guys in comments talk about her uniform resembling Nazi one... Did they forget what side Japan was on? Hail Nana! \o ^^ Btw, before Transmigration she sang Bring it on and quite badly as well, but she looked and sounded like she was drunk - mixed bottles during outfit changing or smth? =) So it was fun to watch anyway =) 2. Headset. Enough said actually =) I can remember 2 or 3 times when she didn't have troubles with headset... Most of the times the sound is just awful, sometimes it's even trying to fall off... Throw it away already, will you? =)) 3. I remember I really didn't like Journey's Discoteque, but having watched it now I see no real fail there - just some minor shortcomings. But Journey has another fail Nana has many different styles on stage, you may like one and dislike another - we all have different tastes. But if you like THIS hairstyle - it's surely something wrong with you =)
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Post by Sai on Feb 7, 2012 21:16:38 GMT -4
Eek, yeah, I remember the whole LIVE FIGHTER outfit being a bit of a touchy issue with some people when it happened. But let's be honest, she's far from the only J-pop singer to use Army-esque/Nazi-esque fashion in their outfits. From what I've read of Japan, the Holocaust isn't something that's given a lot of emphasis in their education. I can't say I've heard any vocal fails from Nana yet, but then again... I'm sure a "vocal fail" for her is fairly insignificant compared to the vocal fails of other singers A cute "fail" that I read about in a concert report for Live Journey was Nana literally falling off stage while trying to throw goods into the audience as she usually does in her encores XD God, I hope they got that on camera.
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ranrannyan
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Post by ranrannyan on Feb 7, 2012 22:16:34 GMT -4
Wow, this is one depressing topic xD A cute "fail" that I read about in a concert report for Live Journey was Nana literally falling off stage while trying to throw goods into the audience as she usually does in her encores XD God, I hope they got that on camera. Tbh, that's actually not funny She fell twice during Live Journey, the first time she hurt her wrist and the second time I think she said she dislocated her shoulder. She said that in Smile Gang. One of Nana's fail, is her costume from Kouhaku for PopMaster. Um...just....yea no. And she chose that costume herself too.
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Post by Sai on Feb 7, 2012 23:37:00 GMT -4
Oooh, ouch x_X I had no idea she actually ended up hurt, the report I read had made a point of saying she was fine and it seemed really light-hearted...
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ranrannyan
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Post by ranrannyan on Feb 8, 2012 0:13:58 GMT -4
The superwoman still said that she's fine though I mean, she's like...an energizer bunny. Fell twice, still sleeps 4 hours a day.
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Post by amelala on Feb 8, 2012 2:07:16 GMT -4
that I read about in a concert report for Live Journey was Nana literally falling off stage while trying to throw goods into the audience as she usually does in her encores XD God, I hope they got that on camera. erm...they did lol if i not wrong caught it in "seven pieces ep 2" the cam man got caught off by the goods that she threw...so not the full pic of her epic fall ^^;;;; mizukinanafan.blogspot.com/2010/03/cs-fuji-next.htmlbest 1 is on the 1st day of LIVE JOURNEY theres an epic fall on her face XP on the blue dress lol ^^;;;
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Post by replaymachine on Feb 8, 2012 14:37:50 GMT -4
Interesting topic. And before we know it, we're already bashing her ^^;; Anyways nope, Nana isn't perfect. In fact, to me she's soo imperfect that I love her for it. If she is really perfect (who even is?) then I'm sure would've gotten tired of her already. 1) About Transmigration...are you talking about the lyrics fail? Actually, that video was the first time I've heard Transmigration and I've been repeating it for so many times and only when downloaded the song did I found out that she missed the lyrics.lol. 2) I also notice the headset. She looks uncomfortable especially when not all the notes are absorbed by the mike. As for mine: 1) Messing up the lyrics - she always messes up some lyrics like in Diamond. I think she missed thrice. Just minor mistakes though. But still, a miss is still a miss. 2) Costumes - she tends to wear "weird" clothes in concerts. And she IS part of the designing process of her costumes. I'm inclined to think that it's kind of an outlet of her weird imaginations/fetishes whatever. 3) Live performance fail moments - I remember the billboard japan performance. Her voice was shaking and she's so pitchy...though I admit I like it :-[lol. I like hearing her raw pitchy voice. It amused me to no end really. ;D 4) Astrogation - I think I'm the only one who doesn't like this. The recorded yes, but the live is...I'm not satisfied. Though I think the song is really hard to sing and I also don't believe that song is suited for her voice anyway. 5) Sexy Nana Fail - I remember in last year's punishment game where she's supposed to "kiss" then it ended up sounding like "umh" then followed by fits of cough.lolololol 6) Baka-inu Keitan
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Post by Unchain_Knight on Feb 8, 2012 16:17:23 GMT -4
I don't think any here counts as bashing I mean it's like loving someone so much that you can criticise them a bit ^^
I too question her taste in costumes... she has some really sweet looking ones and then others that are just... uhhh. The 1st costume in Live Diamond was a bit weird and that awful Heartcatch Paradise performance from Live Games... Jesus.
Lol kind of cute that she falls a lot. I mean in reality that must hurt but clumsy!Nana is kind of cute to imagine. Need to see that Live Journey clip.
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matteas
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Post by matteas on Feb 8, 2012 16:57:31 GMT -4
Some lyrics slips, some mic fails, some other things, but nothing which would make me say: "OMFG What are you doing, Nana?"
Regarding the mentioned Billboard Japan performance, I think it must have been extremely strange for Nana to perform on such a place. There were few people in the audience, sitting at tables, as lively as my deceased grandfathers, probably also piercing Nana with their eyes. I wouldn't be surprised if that was what made her voice falter.
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Post by amelala on Feb 8, 2012 17:54:31 GMT -4
ehhh...Astrogation is some of fans' top song....to me also is quite a good song, i even can sing it lol XD is not that hard to sing it lol *if u can sing the high pitch* for Billboard Japan performance, agree w matteas if u see carefully watch it what kind of audience is she singing to....only Nana's *rich* fans r seating way back...while other singer stars r in the front, (quite scary to sing alone n to the pp u r competing w ^.^;;;;
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haksaw
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Post by haksaw on Feb 8, 2012 17:56:53 GMT -4
Already mentioned Heart-catch paradise from Games left me with exactly these words in mind =) But when the shock passed I repeated it for like 10 times ^_^ Talking about costumes I pointed that we likely have different tastes, so I can't categorize an outfit as a fail just because I don't like it. If it falls apart it's a different story though ^^ Actually I don't remember any costume that bad, that it awfulness stayed in my memory... Usually I just laugh =) Like that dress from Diamond that looks like a rick I laughed so hard, especially when she started moving in it =)) Btw we may create a thread for her costumes as well, since she has an awful lot to see and discuss Sexy Nana Fail Sexy Nana always fails =) Such an image doesn't suit her at all. I'm so glad she stopped performing that shameless dance for Discoteque.
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Post by Sai on Feb 8, 2012 18:06:14 GMT -4
The Billboard Japan one was when she performed PHANTOM MINDS, right? Yeah, I remember when that happened I had remarked that her voice was shaky. I dunno if it was bad enough to be considered a "fail" but then again... we are extremely spoiled with Nana's usual vocal ability.
^ And I don't think Sexy Nana always fails. I mean, it's a bit odd to see her attempt the "mainstream" sexy image - and a large part of that, imo, is that it's just not part of her persona - but when she goes for a slightly different kind of sexy (coughEtsuraku Camelliacough) she can pull it off effortlessly.
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haksaw
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Post by haksaw on Feb 8, 2012 18:31:37 GMT -4
The thing is, different people consider different things "sexy". So if we take this in consideration, there's no point in talking about sexy at all, since pretty much everything can be considered sexy by some pervert =) So we have to talk about "sexy" in its "mainstream" meaning, something like "come and take me, I'm right here!" (What a time, sigh...). Nana's type is "femme fatale" and she looks really nice and epic, but is it sexy? If you like that type - then yes I surely do... But I can't name it universal sexy image. Btw when she sings most of the songs her expression changes greatly from easygoing look to epic one with her eyes looking somewhere far away - I like it so much =) we are extremely spoiled with Nana's usual vocal ability. Yes, the problem exists... Though it hurts other singers way worse than Nana ;D
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Post by Sai on Feb 8, 2012 18:55:38 GMT -4
^ Too true, a lot of this is subjective so pegging down an actual "fail" is trickier than it sounds
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meikyuutie
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Post by meikyuutie on Feb 8, 2012 20:15:14 GMT -4
Nana ... fail... EHHHHHH? Those words can even go together?!!?! :XD
GWAHA HA i'm only kiddin... she's not perfect just pretty darn close :good
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