Post by stranger on Nov 27, 2015 5:35:35 GMT -4
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Haha I didn't want to leave a long reply, but you raise some fair points so I feel I have to defend my original post. Well, with one exception:
I'm sure you are correct about REBECCA's qualifications. When I said REBECCA who, it was simply that I wasn't aware of REBECCA before you mentioned them. But doing a quick look on ja.wikipedia makes it clear how popular they were in the 80's, maybe even pioneers. Hmm, well, maybe I'll have to check them out.
I don't disagree with the fact that Nana hasn't penetrated the Kouhaku audience as well as Miwa (that goes back to Anison bias), but is that really the main issue? I would think that tapping into an audience previously ignored is more important than having the general Kouhaku audience be slightly disinterested in it for 2 minutes or so. Like you said, it's the kind of audience that watches Kouhaku, they're most likely going to watch it anyways and Nana being included for 2 minutes isn't going to stop them. And who is to say they are generally disinterested? I know the first Nana x T.M. collaboration was a great ratings success and a highlight for the first half. The second one did well, from what I remember, considering it was a repeat performance of one of her most generic songs. Though it's clear now why they did it (same reason u's is taking over Nana's spot).
As for Miwa, well, going back to your original point, you say she is popular digitally. Due to its complexity and lack of sales info, I mostly avoid it with the exception of certifications. I was under the impression that the digital chart is still rather "new" for Japan, unlike in some other markets. And even more than that, a digital sale of one song, to me, generally speaks as a casual interest in the artist. The song is nice, but they don't have enough interest to buy for a full album. So, due to that, I don't really think Miwa's popularity on digital for her singles is more impressive than Nana's popularity physically (with albums, DVD's and singles). I would need more information though on Miwa's digital certifications.
The other girl I completely messed up on her name...Ohara Sakurako. It's too soon for her. It's like they're trying to look into the crystal ball and hope the momentum continues upwards. Leo Ieiri didn't get an invite despite the way she broke into the scene with her first album too. Same with Miwa, too, they waited a few years until she really had a breakout hit with Hikari E. So Ohara definitely the one I question the most.
And then there's also AAA...although their fanbase tends to be loyal.
When there is a limited number of spots like this, the question becomes whether their qualifications exceed Nana's. If you said prestiege is more important, then why not Nana? She broke so many records those other acts I mentioned have not. When it comes to sales, she also tends to outsell all of them, sometimes by substantial amounts. Her ratings on Kouhaku in the past have been solid. So, the most logical reason is what everyone has been saying (and what I stated in my second sentence):
u's took Nana's spot. And they probably anticipate the same audience that watched for Nana to watch for u's. So they don't have any reason to include Nana this year, even with her great sales and achievements. I think your theories are unlikely. That blog post, overall, has the sentiments of someone making the best out of disappointing situation.
Though, I honestly do not care too much about watching her appear. I didn't even watch last year once I learned it was the Preserved Roses...again. It just seems bizarre to not include her, if that was the case.
Haha I didn't want to leave a long reply, but you raise some fair points so I feel I have to defend my original post. Well, with one exception:
I'm sure you are correct about REBECCA's qualifications. When I said REBECCA who, it was simply that I wasn't aware of REBECCA before you mentioned them. But doing a quick look on ja.wikipedia makes it clear how popular they were in the 80's, maybe even pioneers. Hmm, well, maybe I'll have to check them out.
I don't disagree with the fact that Nana hasn't penetrated the Kouhaku audience as well as Miwa (that goes back to Anison bias), but is that really the main issue? I would think that tapping into an audience previously ignored is more important than having the general Kouhaku audience be slightly disinterested in it for 2 minutes or so. Like you said, it's the kind of audience that watches Kouhaku, they're most likely going to watch it anyways and Nana being included for 2 minutes isn't going to stop them. And who is to say they are generally disinterested? I know the first Nana x T.M. collaboration was a great ratings success and a highlight for the first half. The second one did well, from what I remember, considering it was a repeat performance of one of her most generic songs. Though it's clear now why they did it (same reason u's is taking over Nana's spot).
As for Miwa, well, going back to your original point, you say she is popular digitally. Due to its complexity and lack of sales info, I mostly avoid it with the exception of certifications. I was under the impression that the digital chart is still rather "new" for Japan, unlike in some other markets. And even more than that, a digital sale of one song, to me, generally speaks as a casual interest in the artist. The song is nice, but they don't have enough interest to buy for a full album. So, due to that, I don't really think Miwa's popularity on digital for her singles is more impressive than Nana's popularity physically (with albums, DVD's and singles). I would need more information though on Miwa's digital certifications.
The other girl I completely messed up on her name...Ohara Sakurako. It's too soon for her. It's like they're trying to look into the crystal ball and hope the momentum continues upwards. Leo Ieiri didn't get an invite despite the way she broke into the scene with her first album too. Same with Miwa, too, they waited a few years until she really had a breakout hit with Hikari E. So Ohara definitely the one I question the most.
And then there's also AAA...although their fanbase tends to be loyal.
When there is a limited number of spots like this, the question becomes whether their qualifications exceed Nana's. If you said prestiege is more important, then why not Nana? She broke so many records those other acts I mentioned have not. When it comes to sales, she also tends to outsell all of them, sometimes by substantial amounts. Her ratings on Kouhaku in the past have been solid. So, the most logical reason is what everyone has been saying (and what I stated in my second sentence):
u's took Nana's spot. And they probably anticipate the same audience that watched for Nana to watch for u's. So they don't have any reason to include Nana this year, even with her great sales and achievements. I think your theories are unlikely. That blog post, overall, has the sentiments of someone making the best out of disappointing situation.
Though, I honestly do not care too much about watching her appear. I didn't even watch last year once I learned it was the Preserved Roses...again. It just seems bizarre to not include her, if that was the case.